| The Arizona congressman, who just launched a campaign to take Kyrsten Sinema’s Senate seat, discusses political pragmatism, the lessons of the war on terror, and what’s really happening in Latino communities.  Illustration by Diego Mallo In 2018, the congressman and former marine Ruben Gallego campaigned for the Arizona senator Kyrsten Sinema, donating money and knocking on doors. But, last month, Gallego announced his plans to challenge Sinema for the Senate in 2024, soon after she changed her political affiliation from Democrat to Independent. As part of this week’s Interviews Issue, Benjamin Wallace-Wells talks with Gallego—who once said that politics involves trying to “shank each other”—about Sinema’s party switch, how Arizona became a purple state, and his Trump-hardened approach to Democratic politics. - On Sinema’s shift away from the Democratic Party: “She didn’t learn. . . . It’s as if she literally forgot the lessons of being poor.”
- On fighting the Iraq War as a Latino soldier: “I can’t afford more therapy.”
- On the rise of Trump: “I was worried right away. . . . I’m, like, ‘There’s a big segment of the population who’ve been waiting for someone to say this to them and make them feel good about these thoughts that they’ve been having.’ And unfortunately I was right.”
The 2023 Interviews Issue: This week, we’ve published interviews with Cate Blanchett, Will Shortz, Sandra Oh, and many others—with more to come. Read the issue » | 
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